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The Lord Jesus is not the Father
 

The position of the Lord Jesus has been argued and debated in great quanties. Some say that Jesus is created, others say that Jesus is the Father, and some deny Godhead of Jesus. The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God, but not the Father. How this can be possible? When you research widely the Bible, so you can see that clear teaching of the Bible is that Jesus is God, but not the Father.

 

When you research widely the Bible, you will see that the Bible teaches about one God, which is in the Father, the Lord Jesus, and in the Holy Spirit. God doesn't say in His word that He is Trinity, but one in the Father, the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit. God is one, but Jesus is not the Father.

 

If you want to find out the truth that what the Bible teaches for the Lord Jesus, so you must research in prayer by the Holy Spirit all passages that show who Jesus is. These all passages are in harmony and consistently describe that who the Lord Jesus is. All passages are in the same line and do not conflict one another.

 

Heretic or wrong doctrine about the Lord Jesus arises thus that a man believes only certain verses, which support his opinion, but he continually passes over verses, which don't support his opinion. For this reason, he doesn't see the whole truth, but remain astray. When you want and have courage to research position of the Lord Jesus with all passages, so you will find consistent teaching that who Jesus is. You will see that Jesus is God and in the same the Son of God, but not the Father. Test my teaching by the word of God, because all teaching must be tested that we could find the truth.

We live near the coming of the Lord Jesus. The Lord Jesus said that before His coming comes many false prophets deceiving by false doctrines and deceitful signs and wonders. In this teaching I handle heresy, which teach that Jesus is the Father. This topic is very important, because Jesus only doctrine (Jesus is the Father) is a very great danger to get lost from the faith.

You who believe that Jesus is the Father, I want to say that entire teaching of the Bible tells for us the truth in this case, not one or a few verses, but the whole Bible. I exhort to you test this teaching from the word of God. I don't force you to believe the way I believe, but I bring forth that how I believe in the Lord Jesus according to the word of God.

One God

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Col 1:
12 ¶ Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

De 6:4 4 ¶ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one (echad) LORD:

The Bible teaches that God created heavens and earth and a man in the image of God. Teaching of the Bible is that Jesus created with His Father all things that are in heaven and in earth, visible and invisible. According to the Bible the position of Jesus as creative God with His Father is the indisputable fact. The Bible say clearly that God created heavens and earth and a man and Jesus was as God creating with His Father. Testimony of the Bible proves that Jesus is God.

If you don't believe that Jesus is God, so you don't either believe that God created heavens and the earth. The Bible shows for us that the God (Father and Jesus, Spirit of God) created the heavens and the earth. You can't drop away Jesus from the Godhead, because the Bible clearly tells that One God (Father, Jesus, Spirit of God) created the heavens and the earth.

The Bible says that God is one. How God can be one? Because He says so, and wants that we believe in Him as one God, who is in the Father, the Lord Jesus and in the Holy Spirit. Don't argue against God, but believe what He says about Himself.

The Son (Jesus) will be subject to His Father

1 Cor 15:
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

These verses cancel very clearly Jesus is the Father doctrine. If Jesus were the Father, so there would be someone who is greater than the Father to whom He subjects Himself. This is impossible, and there can't be anyone who is greater than the Father. For this reason, Jesus is not the Father, and therefore, He subjects Himself to Father as the Bible tells.

These verses show for us very clearly that the Father alone is Almighty, who has all the power. That's why the Lord Jesus subjects Him to the Father. The omnipotence of the Father doesn't cancel Godhead of Jesus. Jesus was with Father creating heavens and the earth as God. The Lord Jesus sits at this moment as God on the throne of God and also will sit in the New Jerusalem.

Hebr 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

The Father alone knows

Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

When the Lord Jesus walked on the earth, so He said that the Father alone knew the day and hour when the Son (Jesus) return. Jesus said that no less, He didn't know this. If He were the Father, so He should know when it happens, because the Bible says that the Father alone knows that day and hour. Because the Lord Jesus is not the Father, so He didn't know it.

This passage proves very clearly that Jesus is not the Father. This passage also proves that the Father alone is Almighty. As many other passages, so also this comes out that Jesus didn't hold Himself as the Father. From this passage Jesus makes very clear that He is not the Father.

Confess Jesus as the Son of God

1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

The Bible doesn't teach that Jesus must confess as the Father, because He is not the Father, but the Son of God. If Jesus were the Father, so the Bible would tell it for us that we must confess Jesus as the Father. However, the Bible doesn't teach it anywhere because He isn't the Father. Because Jesus is the Son of God and not the Father, so we must confess Him as the Son of God, not the Father.

1 John 4:15 is very important teaching because when we confess that Jesus is the Son of God (not Father), so in him God dwells, and he abides in God.

The Father teaches the Son

John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

If Jesus were the Father, so He couldn't say that He couldn't do anything of Himself, and that He speaks as to His Father has taught Him. If Jesus were the Father, so no-one could teach Him. Because Jesus is not the Father, so He said that the Father had taught Him. This verse reveals very clearly that Jesus is not the Father.

The Father is greater than the Son

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

If Jesus would be the Father so He couldn't say that He goes to His Father and that His Father is greater tyha He is. If Jeus would be the Father, so He couldn't say that there exist greater than the Father. This would mean that above the Father would be still greater power than the Father. This thought is non-biblical, because the Father is the Almighty God. Because Jesus is not the Fathe, so He said that the Father is greater than He is. Yhos passage proves very clearly that Jesus is not the Father.

God of Jesus

John 20:17  Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

If Jesus were the Father, so He couldn't say to go to His Father and that the Father is His God. Because Jesus is the Son God, not the Father, so therefore, He said to go to His Father and that the Father is His God. He said it because the Father is greater than the Son (Jesus).

My beloved Son

Matt 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

The Father said that the Son (Jesus) is His beloved Son. If Jesus were the Father, so He wouldn't be called the Son or beloved Son, but the Father. This passage also proves that Jesus is not the Father.

Abba Father

Mark 14:
34 And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

If Jesus were the Father, so He wouldn't pray the Father and would not say, nevertheless, not what I will, but what You will. If Jesus were the Father, so He wouldn't ask to take away the cup from Himself. If Jesus were the Father, so He wouldn't need to pray the Father.

Because Jesus is not the Father, therefore. He prayed the Father. If Jesus were the Father, so He wouldn't speak Himself as another, but the one who He really is. Jesus didn't hold Himself as the Father, therefore. He prayed and talked to His Father.

Into your hands I commend My spirit

Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

If Jesus were the Father, so whose hands, He would commit His spirit? This verse among others proves that Jesus is the Father doctrine is non-biblical and absurd. Because Jesus is not the Father, therefore. He committed His Spirit to His Father hands.

The Early Chruch didn't believe that Jesus is the Father

2 Cor 1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

2 Cor 11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.

Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

1 Cor 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1 Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

The apostles of the Early Church didn't believed that Jesus is the Father, but that Father God is the Father of Jesus. They said that God is the Father of Jesus, because the Father is greater than the Son (Jesus). Apostle Paul taught that the Father is the head of Jesus.

The Lamb (Jesus) and the Father

Rev 5:
1 ¶ And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
6 ¶ And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

The book of Revelation chapter five tells that the Lamb (Jesus) took the book out of the right hand of Him (Father God) that sat on the throne. Also in this passage the Bible makes very clear separation that Jesus is not the Father.

God is immortal

1 Tim 6:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

The Bible teaches that only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords only has immortality. Some teach that because Jesus can't die and won the death and the Father is immortality, so they are one and same person. The Bible cancels this teaching:

Acts 13:37 But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.

2 Cor 4:14 Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you.

Gal 1:1  Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

The Lord Jesus didn't die, and His body didn't see corruption, because He raised up from the dead bodily. God doesn't die, and Jesus didn't, because His Father raised Him from the dead. Jesus is not the Father, and this comes out very clearly in these verses, for the Father raised Jesus from the dead.

If Jesus were the Father, so in the Bible wouldn't read that His Father raised Him from the dead. The Father raising Jesus from the dead proves that Jesus is not the Father.

The Son can do nothing of Himself

John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

If Jesus were the Father, so He couldn't say that He could do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do. Because Jesus is not the Father, therefore. He said that He could do nothing without His Father.

He who has seen Jesus has seen the Father

John 14:
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

This Bible place is one of the favorite passages the supporter of Jesus is the Father doctrine. The wrong teaching says that Jesus' words that he have seen Me have seen the Father mean that Jesus is the Father. Because no man has seen at any time the Father, so Jesus is not the Father, because people saw Jesus with their own eyes. When we read the whole context, so we understand what Jesus meant.

In the verse, the Jesus tells that in a what way they can see the Father. The Father did works through Jesus, in other words; they could see the Father through the works of Jesus, which Father did through Him.

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

The gospel of John chapters 1 and 6 the Lord Jesus says that no man has seen the Father God at any time. These passages prove that when Jesus said that he who has seen Me has seen the Father, so He meant that they had seen the Father through the works of Jesus, but not the Father, because no man has seen the Father at any time. The words of John's gospel 1:18; 6:46 Jesus brought forth that He is not the Father.  

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isa 9:6 is also one of the favorite passages the supporter of Jesus is the Father doctrine. They say that this place proves that Jesus is the Father. Isa 6:9 says that the Son (Jesus) should call the name everlasting Father, but not that the Father is the everlasting Father. The Bible proves this:

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Matt 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Jesus comes the Hebrew word Yehoshua, which means God (Yhvh) is salvation. Yehoshua comes from words Yhvh and yasha. Yhvh means the Lord and yasha means save and saviour. Emmanuel means God with us. We see that the Son should be called as God and Yhvh, which are names of the Father. Like this way Isa 6:9 has been fulfilled,  and Jesus is not the Father, but must call the names of the Father.

I and my Father are one

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

The Lord Jesus said that He is one with His Father. This doesn't mean that Jesus is the Father, because Jesus said that no man had seen God (Father) at any time:

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Because no man has seen at any time the Father, so Jesus is not the Father, because people saw Jesus with their own eyes.

I (Jesus) and My Father are one means that the Lord Jesus did and actes in the same as His Father. The word one describes perfect oneness between the Son (Jesus) and the Father.

The Father send Jesus

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

If Jesus were the Father, so He couldn't say that someone else has sent Him. No-one can send the Almighty Father God. Because Jesus is not the Father, therefore, Jesus said that the Father sent Him.

Believe in Jesus as He is

John 8:24  I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

The Bible teaches that we must believe in the Lord Jesus thus who He is. Jesus is not the Father; Therefore, it is not Biblical and right to believe that He is the Father.

The Bible teaches to believe in Jesus as the Creator God with His Father, as the Son of God, as the Lord, as the Messiah, as the Saviour, as the Redeemer of sins and as the giver of the eternal life.

Who confesses the Son has also the Father

1 John 2:
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

These verses teaches that whosoever denies the Son (Jesus) he is from the spirit of antichrist. Denying of the Son (Jesus) as the Son of God, as the Lord, as the Messiah, as the Saviour makes people partition of antichrist and he who denies Him has no the Father. Who confesses Jesus as the Son, he has also the Father.

If you believe that Jesus is the Father, so you don't confess Son in Godhead and not the Father. You are in danger to get lost from the salvation, because you reject the existenc of Jesus as the Son of God and make Him another, that He is not.

John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

In the Bible, Jesus teaches that on Him must believe as the Scriptures has said, not against the Scriptures!

Repentace is still possible

Wrong teaching, unhealthy faith, spiritual blindness and pride are things that lead people to believe heresy called Jesus only doctrine (Jesus is the Father). No-one is perfect, and we all have erred often.

Jas 3:
1 ¶ My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
2 For in many things we offend
(ptaio) all. If any man offend (ptaio) not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

Sometimes humbling can be difficult and especially if someone has many years fiercely defend for some wrong doctrine. For manu happens that carnal mind rules instead of spiritual mind. For this reason, he doesn't want and can't repent from the wrong doctrine. In his harden heart, he can't see that he built wrongly. For this reason, he will remain as a prisoner of deception. 

The best solution is humbled into repentance and reject false doctrines, when they have been revealed for us. In the question is not losing of trust of others, but rejecting the lies and false doctrines. From the grace of God, we can repent and change our mind, when God shows for us that we have turned off from the truth in some area

 

 

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